Archive for the ‘Electronic Cigarettes’ Category
DR Farsalinos has done yet another excellent study, this time measuring the consumption and delivery of nicotine via an electronic cigarette. Please note I have taken this information from a post placed on the ecf forum.
Before this study, guessing how much nicotine you got from your e-cig was a favourite pastime. Admittedly previous studies have been done about nicotine absorption, but what they did was compare e-cig smoking to cigarette smoking and they used machines, which do not smoke or vape the same way a human does. Like a signature, we all have our own way of vaping!
When e-cigarettes first came onto the market it was thought that a super e cig cartridge held the equivalent nicotine of 20 cigarettes. That was rapidly changed down to 10, and then finally settled at around the 7 cigarettes per cartridge level. Now it is any body’s guess, as there are a myriad of e-cigs on the market and plenty of different strength e liquids.
So, what did Dr Farsalinos do?
He took 45 vapers versus 35 control smokers and looked at several measures; “the puff duration and number of puffs taken over a given time frame from users puffing on an ego/tank setup. They found that using the 9mg/ml liquid provided in the test, vapers were consuming around .5mg of nicotine in 5 minutes, and 1.6mg over 20 minutes.
“Scaling this figure up to a 20mg solution (as used by many vapers), Farsalinos concludes that 1mg per 5 mins, and 4 mg per 20 mins of nicotine would be consumed.”
What Dr Farsalinos has done is establish a precise figure for the amount of nicotine delivered to the user, and shows that e cigarettes do in fact deliver a substantial amount of nicotine. This also highlights that the 4mg/ml proposed limit of nicotine in an unlicensed e cig would render them totally ineffective.
An interesting post has come from a conservative think tank on how Cameron can get some street cred, and be seen as ‘a man of the people’. This is a near impossibility in my opinion with his uber-privileged background, but credit to them for trying.
Here is a précis of the Think Tank thought process.
Nigel Farage is seen as a man of people because he smokes and drinks – so let’s get Cameron to be cool about snus! Yeah!
(Bear with me as there is some sensible thinking in this; they just have a strange way of going about it…)
They ( conservative voters) want Cameron to re-negotiate certain EU treaties, including the EU Tobacco Products Directive (TPD), because…
The most controversial and damaging part of the Commission’s draft concerns the EU’s approach to reducing harmful impacts of smoking. The Commission’s proposals effectively crush all products that provide smokers with less risky choices, killing the electronic cigarette market, providing no serious legal framework for new, less harmful tobacco products, and maintaining the EU-wide ban on the Swedish tobacco product known as snus.
Many readers will be aware that snus is only legal in Sweden, and that Sweden has the same overall consumption of tobacco as the rest of the EU, but has far lower levels of smoking, and this has been attributed directly to snus. The EU know this, have seen the research etc, yet snus is still to be banned in the revised draft TPD
So, the thinking people think….
If the Conservatives in Europe (both in the Parliament and the Council) can steer a reversal on the ban on snus through the European Parliament, this would allow the Cameron administration to make a stronger argument that reasoned negotiation with our European brethren is possible.
Moreover, there is a strong case to make that tobacco products and smokers’ health should be removed from Brussels altogether under the principle of subsidiarity as defined under Article 5 of the Treaty on European Union. If the Conservatives could successfully persuade the Brussels machine to drop legislation at European level on tobacco entirely, they would be able to make a much stronger case back home that a change in the balance of power at EU level is possible.
Finally, these measures specifically would allow Cameron to paint himself in a more libertarian, smoker-friendly light, something more of a man of the people, and to distance himself from the Notting Hill set. Win-win-win all round for Cameron and snus.
Has that last thread of belief that they have your health at heart evaporated yet??
The debate and discussions continue in the EU as the Tobacco Products Directive makes it’s weary way through the committees and workshops, and we are treated to some abysmal ‘scientific’ presentations, 1200 suggested amendments to date, and a curious letter from an Italian MEP’ asking just how are they are going to replace the tobacco tax revenue, now everyone ( approx. 7 million in Europe) is vaping?
But leaving the money to one side, what about the nicotine in all this discussion?
At present, the EU seem to have dropped the 4mg/ml of nicotine cut off point, that would have essentially banned e-cigs, they appear to have come to their senses about this and the pharmacological action ‘reason’ behind suggesting it in the first place, but the general line remains that nicotine is addictive, is vasoconstrictive, and not good for you.
That’s not the entire picture – and I’m sure many of you can attest to this.
Rory Sutherland, an advertising CEO wrote about e-cigs in the Spectator Magazine recently, as he is a vaper, and his friend that he was chatting about them with, just happens to be a biochemist at a top American University, and this is what his biochemist friend had to say about it:
‘It (nicotine) improves cognitive ability, raises IQ, boosts memory function, treats mental illness… rats when given nicotine are much better at navigating mazes….’ He then explained something about T-cell receptors and synapses.’
Which we won’t go into here.
Interesting isn’t it?
And then add that, this study from 19996, where some lab rats were made to breath in nicotine mist for 2 years. It was pure nicotine, (given at the correct dose for them – we are NOT suggesting you try this at home), but after two years there was no damage to the rats – the only difference between the control rats, (those that didn’t breathe in the nicotine mist) and the nicotine breathers, was that the nicotine ‘breathers’ were slimmer.
You can read the abstract of the article here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8614291
Billed as a documentary to find out the truth, this will be an interesting project to follow. There is so much conflicting information about e-cigs circulating the nest and the newspapers, from they are toxic and contain antifreeze, to they are as harmless as a cup of coffee, one wonders if this documentary will clear it all up, once and for all?
For me, this whole project raises questions such as -Will it be able find out the truth about e-cigs, assuming there is one truth? Will we, as vapers like the results, and what exactly is the truth? Does it depend upon which side of the fence you are on?
This documentary has come about because of the EU and the way that vapers are mobilising.
The EU are proposing to put e-cigarettes under the medicinal products licence as they believe they are toxic and need controlling and regulating, despite research that is proving they are far far less harmful than tobacco cigarettes, and despite them already being regulated as a general sales product.
Due to this impending regulation that would amount to a ban, (and yes we have that confirmed by the JURI committee, one of the five committees tasked with reviewing the EU Tobacco product directive,) vapers have been turning to social media to fight this, using forums, Facebook pages and using twitter bombs under the hashtag #EUcigBAN, plus writing in their thousands to their MP’s and MEP’s.
All this attention as caught the eye of TV documentary maker Andy Sutton, and so was born his idea to make a documentary to find out the truth about e-cigs.
He says –“ we plan to create a groundbreaking series that explores this vaping community, their legal and health battles, research, the ethical and political debates. We will also conduct interviews with the leading lights in pharmaceutical industries, health charities and multinational tobacco giants.”
The project has exceeded its stated goal of £10’000, and to date has raised over £15’000. It will be interesting to not only follow this project, which we hope we can, but to see the end product, and to see what Andy can uncover and put together, in what I hope will be a balanced view.
It just remains now to see if we will like what he finds out as the ‘truth’.
One of the hue and cries amongst those wanting e-cigs to be banned is that they are a gateway product. The argument is that people, especially children, will be lured by the array of flavours, become addicted to the nicotine, and then start smoking tobacco cigarettes. This it seems is the number one reason the anti smoking lobby have for wanting to reduce e-liquid flavours down to just tobacco and menthol.
But this isn’t reality, and I can point you to hundreds of post on various forums where people are swearing blind that once they started vaping, they then tried a cigarettes for whatever reason, and the taste was so disgusting, they threw the cigarettes away, usually half smoked.
These are folk that used to smoke 20+ cigarettes a day and enjoy it.
Dave Dorn explains it really well in this video post of his.
But let’s take this further, and lets look at some actual research. This was not a large study admittedly, 288 teenagers involved, and we have to be aware that the study was paid for by the American Cancer Society.
Out of the 288 teenagers in the trial, not one of the non- smokers had tried an e-cig. And of the ones that had tried an e-cig, they were already smokers.
When these teenagers were asked if they would try an e-cig, 67% said yes, but lets’ remember they were asked, and they were teenagers – young people out to experience life. Let’s also note that the older they were, (above 13yrs), the more chance there was that they would say yes to trying one.
Next the researchers looked at the enticement of flavours – and they found that flavours did not increase the attractiveness of e-cigarettes to teenagers.
What they found was this:
“Being a smoker was the strongest predictor of willingness to try an e-cigarette. Even after controlling for other statistically significant correlates, the odds of a smoker being willing to try an e-cigarette were 10 times the odds of a non-smoker.”
So it looks like if anyone is going to try an e-cig, chances are they are already a smoker.
It doesn’t happen the other way round.